Eugene Cho

if we’re truly people of the resurrection…

Earlier this week, I was down in Long Beach, CA to speak at a conference called the Ideation. In my true vulnerable fashion, I managed to do my presentation to a larger group of non-profit leaders and humanitarians with my zipper open.  Classic.

But this post isn’t about my zipper or my other embarrassing moments.

It’s about a surprise meeting – in a bathroom at Westin Hotel in Long Beach – the location of the conference.

In need of going to the restroom during one of the sessions, I snuck off and as I stood at a urinal, I looked over and next to me…(in God’s amazing sense of both humor and grace)…is Mike Foster.

Seriously. you had to be there. Mike and I just laughed.

Not to rehash old stuff, but most of my readers know of the intense and painful situation surrounding the removal of the book, Deadly Vipers.

I read a tweet that he was going to be at the conference and thought it would be “cool” if we could just naturally run into each other and I guess this an answer to that prayer.

After relieving ourselves, composing ourselves from the laughter, and washing our hands…we stumbled onto the conversation of “hey, we should grab some time together” and agreed to meet the next morning.

We chatted for over 2+ hours. While I had met Mike once before some time ago in a split second passing, this was our first conversation and enjoyed the opportunity to hear one another’s stories.

And yes, we spoke about other things – namely the stuff around the DV situation. While I don’t regret my views of the inappropriateness of the DV marketing and calling for the authors and Zondervan to remove the materials, I grieved in how some of the situation unfolded.

While this isn’t the right time to share too many details of our conversation, what I’d like to convey with all of you is that if we truly are people of the resurrection…

then…

we need to be people of the restoration.
we need to be people of reconciliation.
we need to be people of redemption.

I’m not suggesting  that we be naive in thinking that everything is perfectly reconciled with all the parties involved because it is not but let’s also not be cynical in thinking that the story is over.

If we’re truly people of the resurrection, then – Restoration, Reconciliation, Redemption – aren’t options. We all need to keep pursuing these things…

And if you get a chance, I want to encourage you to check out the project that rose out of the closure of Deadly Vipers:

People of the Second Chance.

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11 Responses

  1. jamesbrett says:

    so, eugene, i’ve only just recently added you to my blog reader, so i know i don’t have a great volume of your work to stand on…

    but, dude, you talk a lot about the potty. all my reader’s loaded so far is stories about zippers and bathrooms. but i’m hanging in here; i’ll see it out a bit.

  2. djchuang says:

    I too noticed Mike Foster among the attendees, and I thought to myself that it was so refreshing to see someone who’s a regular conference speaker on the platform to sit among the audience with a learning posture. I was deliberating whether to breach the subject of DV, and opted out. I did suggest Mike to attend Charity Water’s workshop on storytelling, and I hope that was inspirational for his well-honed creative side.

  3. Jim Gray says:

    Thanks for the transparency in this article…glad to hear to got to connect with Mike.

  4. DK says:

    I love and respect both you and mike. Great to see you guys at ideation

  5. r2k says:

    This is what the Gospel looks like. It may not be seamless or pretty to some, but any move towards reconciliation, redemption, resurrection is a glory-bound move. And sometimes that work starts at a urinal.

    (maybe this is why real Christians are supposed to pee standing up?”

  6. jamesbrett says:

    so thanks to that link above, yet one more post on urine… i mean i feel like this is all a practical joke or something. seriously, i’ve read three eugene cho posts in my life. every one = pee.

    • Eugene Cho says:

      jamesbrett: you do NOT want to subscribe to this blog. do yourself a favor and un-subscribe and you’ll be happier for it. i won’t be offended.

      • jamesbrett says:

        i’ve made it through some of the archives now, eugene, and am happy to be here. [i didn’t mind all along… just thought it odd.] thanks for all you’re doing in and for the kingdom. i really appreciate it. God’s richest blessings on you and your ministries.

  7. Daniel says:

    When did the blog legalism police join the group?

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  9. john lin says:

    that is legendary. i’m so glad your conversation continued beyond the urinal.

    yes – so true that resurrection MUST yield reconciliation, restoration, redemption.

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