Eugene Cho

pantheism and panentheism

The internet affords people the platform to write, share, blog, critique, connect, support, etc.  I’ve received my fair share of comments including my favorite ones of being a sinister megalamonia  or gracious as all f*#k.  But a recent blog entry really intriqued me. 

Why? 

It referred over 4000+ hits to either this blog and/or the church website since it was published on August  27.  The blog entry I’m referring to is from the “blog of Lighthouse Trails Research.”  Who are they?

In the year 2000, we learned that a mantra-style meditation coupled with a mystical spirituality had been introduced to the evangelical church and was infiltrating youth groups, churches, seminaries, and Bible studies at an alarming rate. Thus, in the spring of 2001, we began Lighthouse Trails Publishing with the hope of exposing this dangerous and pervasive paradigm…

As we learned more about contemplative spirituality (also known as the spiritual formation movement), we came to realize it had infected the church in a wide variety of aspects. Models like Willow Creek, Purpose Driven, and the emerging church had become avenues through which contemplative was entering Christendom.

Because the premise of this spirituality is both pantheistic (God is all things) and panentheistic (God is in all things), thus refuting the gospel message of the Cross, we are compelled to address this issue.  Lighthouse Trails Publishing and our research ministry, Lighthouse Trails Research Project, are here as a service to the body of Christ.

Huh?  What?  Willow, Purpose Driven, and Emerging all in the same sentence with the words pantheistic and panentheistic?

So, on their blog entry about Quest Church and its merger with Interbay Church, they wrote some interesting stuff about Quest, the Evangelical Covenant Church, Glen Palmberg [the ECC president], and even Scot McKnight.  It’s actually quite confusing but that’s alot of referrals.

Sadly, a search on Evangelical Covenant’s main site reveals a propensity toward contemplative spirituality (an earmark of the emerging church). One article called Silent Retreat Ideas lists “wonderful resources” by mystics Thomas Merton and Henri Nouwen. Another article titled “Labyrinth Serves as ‘Guided Prayer Walk'” encourages church members to “walk the labyrinth.” 6  And yet another article, “Centering Prayer: Rediscovering God’s Presence” talks about the contribution mystic Thomas Keating has made to the centering prayer movement and encourages readers to “learn more.” And we could list article after article of a similar nature.

Clearly, the Evangelical Covenant denomination is embracing contemplative spirituality and the emerging church, which would explain why The Quest has been able to successfully absorb the 65 year old traditional Interbay Covenant. We just wonder though, did Interbay’s members realize what they were getting into?

Huh? 

Filed under:

20 Responses

  1. janet says:

    That’s pretty bizarre. I read the entry and I wasn’t quite sure what they were saying they were about.

  2. bob says:

    I’ve been watching these guys or awhile (I was quoted in an article on the emerging church that they were quoted in, that’s how they got on my radar)… Not to put too fine a point on it, but… they’re a bit nuts.
    No joke- Rick Warren is part of a vast global/spiritual conspiracy through the sinister method of “diaprax” to use small groups to ready the church for a one-world government…

    yeah.

    It gets amazingly wild… they’re spiritual kin of Ingrid S/Slice of Laodicea and Ken Silva/CRN…

  3. Tim Sneath says:

    The fact that they don’t accept comments on their blog is revealing. It’s a strangely circuitous argument: ICC have been a Covenant church for decades; Quest have been a formal member for something under three years. But by giving themselves to Quest, ICC have signed up to mysticism because Quest is a Covenant church? I don’t get it.

    Maybe you should send them a copy of the faith statement to which Quest subscribes? http://www.seattlequest.org/faithstatement.html

  4. Dan says:

    Usually, people of this ilk aren’t worthy of attention. I tend to ignore them. However, a couple years ago a lady wrote a letter to the Covenant Companion blasting the Covenant for accepting the message of all those heretics – Richard Foster, Henri Nouwen, the Emergents. Obviously, she was reading the stuff that these Lighthouse people are publishing. And I know of one church in California that almost split when a family began propagating this message, and suckered many into accepting their narrow vision of the truth. It did a lot of damage to their staff, and to their programs. So. . .it’s good to be aware of these folks, because you’ll come up against them at one time or another.

  5. Jennifer says:

    Wait just one cotton pickin’ moment…

    The emergent church is encouraging people to PRAY and pay attention to how they are being formed spiritually?

    HERESY!!!!

    I cant beleive I got sucked into something like that. I’m so outta here…

    p.s. Have you see the fake Rick Warren blog? Sooooo funny. http://fakerick.blogspot.com/

  6. Blake says:

    Boy, if Quest and the ECC are in trouble for this then I’d LOVE to hear what they think about the late John Wimber and the Vineyard movement he started years and years ago (I grew up in the Vineyard). lol. THAT, my friends would be worth reading–for a laugh that is.😉

  7. e cho says:

    A local Covenant church was involved w/ some stuff where couple folks accused the church leadership and the ECC of some heresy and blah blah blah. Don’t know too much but there were some intense letters written back and forth.

    Fun stuff.

  8. Well Eugene, all I can say is join the crowd. Many of us have suffered this kind of attack for years. I am amazed but not surprised and am reminded always of scripture that says “Beware when all people think well of you.” (or something like that). So you must be doing something right to warrant this type of attention. Keep up the good work

  9. e cho says:

    It’s really not that big of a deal to me personally because lots of stuff has already been written – here and there. But, over 4K referrals in less than 2 weeks? That’s pretty stunning…

  10. so you’re saying that possibly 4,000+ people agree with this lighthouse trails’ group’s findings?

    that’s very disturbing…

  11. chad says:

    i have a good friend who is a Covenant camp director in the midwest and he was under all sorts of allegations when they tried “contemplative prayer” during the summer…this website was one that was referenced by the complainers…

    i think people associate “contemplative” with Buddhist monks sitting cross-legged chanting or something…not really sure what the argument is about…maybe FEAR

  12. Kim Aliczi says:

    The end of that article is what really got to me…

    “To understand why contemplative spirituality and the emerging church are mystical in nature and contrary to the Word of God, read A Time of Departing and Faith Undone. If you are an Evangelical Covenant pastor or elder, we will send you a complimentary copy of one of these books at your request.”

    Can you believe it?? LOL I don’t know whether to be offended or laugh myself silly!!

  13. Contemplative prayer is just prayer. Strange that any Christian would find something to object to. Maybe they just didn’t know the word “contemplative” and jumped to conclusions or made something up?

  14. gar says:

    It’s sickly funny that the word “contemplative” is suddenly a dirty word to some folks when applied to the Christian faith and to prayer.

    Heaven forbid people actually think deeply about their lives, their relationship to God and others, and the people around them! CONTEMPLATION IS SOOOOOOOOO EVIL! (/sarcasm)

  15. chad says:

    just today a comment was made on the Covenant website in the “Readers Share their Thoughts” article: http://www.covchurch.org...

    “Steve Ingham of Leawood, KS, writes: We as a Covenant church have departed from the true Word of God. It is tragic to see this New Age gnosticism taking over a formerly Bible-believing denomination. What happened to “Where is it written?” and “How goes your walk?” This “catholic” and eastern mysticism practice does not lead one closer to the Jesus of the Bible. Which Jesus are you conferring with? What spirit?”

    apparently “spiritual direction” is New Age…

  16. BEW says:

    So if you’re not supposed to read Merton or Nouwen, who are you supposed to read?

    Ohhhh.. right.. John MacArthur.

    In my own re-commitment to the faith, it was Labyrinth 1, MacArthur-esque ‘Biblical’ Smackdown 0. And I’m sure I’m not the only one.

  17. Blake says:

    I love how they make it sound like walking a labyrith is some sort of a new thing…as opposed to a tradition that has been around many hundreds of years.

  18. Rebecca says:

    I would like to ask the people in charge of this website what they think Jesus was doing for those 40 days in the wilderness.

    Just a thought.😉

  19. chad says:

    if you send an email to the editors they will reply…now they keep trying to send me literature!

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

stuff, connect, info

One Day’s Wages

My Instagram

The family that karaokes together stays together. #ChoFamilyKPopFamily Family time in one of my favorite cities in the world - especially when the exchange rate is so favorable. Thank you, Vancouver, for being such a great refuge for our souls for the past 20 years. #QuestVancouver It's the day after...that day.
Be grateful. Again.
We woke up. We're alive.
Breathing. Dreaming.
Pursuing. Embodying. Loving.

It's never that perfect or easy but that we get to try to do these things is reason enough to be grateful to the One who gives us life.

Yes. Be grateful.
That you, Jesus.
#PreachingToMyself This is what real life looks like after a crazy couple weeks. Grateful for this woman. I love her. She's gonna scream at me for posting this pic. #ThoseSocksThough Grateful for the opportunity to encourage 2500 youth leaders & pastors at the @youthspecialties conference in Cincinnati, Ohio. Had prayed for wisdom to encourage leaders and courage to navigate a word for leaders post election about empathy and compassion for the unseen, marginalized, and those experiencing real fear.

Also, what a joy to have my church's youth pastor, @cobycagle, also here teaching. Some years ago, I was a youth pastor for several years in California, Korea, NY, and NJ. They were meaningful years but filled with challenges and loneliness. Sometimes, I felt unseen and insignificant - in comparison to "real" adult ministry. As a lead pastor now, I want to make sure I don't make those mistakes of overlooking our youth and children's ministry and their volunteers and staff. 
Pastor Coby, Pastor Katey, Pam, Jalle, and Jasmin: We see you. We appreciate you. We are grateful for your presence and leadership at Quest and beyond. Thank you and all of our amazing volunteers Wow. So proud of our 13 year-old son. When he began the trumpet in middle school, you could say it was a little painful. But this cat has got some groove. He's taught himself the piano, guitar, and really come along on the trumpet.

Parents: Fret not if you have no musical skills. I am living proof that musical genes or the lack thereof are not passed on. #AsianMilesDavis

my tweets

JOIN ME ON FACEBOOK

advertisements

Blog Stats

  • 3,434,089 hits