I really need to do a better job in following up on sequels to earlier posts. This is the sequel to the original The Abortion Conversation which sparked some good and intense dialogue.
A commenter wrote:
“However, I just do not believe we can legislate it. Without going into all the details, the layers over abortion is so complex that even after extensive research, I can’t understand how a country like the United States can enforce abortion and pay for the enforcement – if it were to be turned illegal.”
Instead of “abortion”, replace it with any other crime; like murder, rape, slavery, theft. How does it read then? Is cost any reason not to criminalize an act where another person is harmed? Obviously, we still have murders and other crimes even though it’s illegal, but that doesn’t mean we should allow it.
And another commenter with the following thoughts:
Why does Pastor Cho want to suspend the fight of faith and turn one of the roles of the church (loving people) over to the government? (The government committed to maximize death.) Why does he evaluate moral judgments on the basis of fiscal convenience and not on the Bible?
If abortion is wrong, then it remains wrong, no matter the cost…
As I shared in the first post, I believe emphatically that abortion is wrong and as Christians, we should graciously hold and believe in everything that upholds the sanctity of life – which includes protecting the lives of the unborn.
The government should be involved but how does a government legislate and enforce such a value? And I agree with others that the church needs to be careful not to relinquish – blindly or in totality - our responsibilities to a mostly secular government. As I wrote earlier:
Rather than legislating it, I wonder how abortions can be reduced by speaking and appealing to the Heart and Soul of a person and to make all necessary provisions if a person decides to have that baby. In short, can we maintain choice but do all that we can to preserve and ensure the life of an unborn? This is where most of us fall short.
I find it incredibly frustrating and naive when Christians take a stance of being against abortion at all costs but are unwilling to yield to issues that have direct correlation to abortions: sex education in schools [starting in middle school], health care benefits for low income families and women, post birth care and benefits, usage of contraceptives, etc.
Hypothetically, if abortion is made illegal, I still want to know: How do you enforce it? How about those who cross country borders? How about underground markets?
And this is a true story from many years ago when I was a much younger pastor. For those who hold the view that abortion should be “illegal” and punishable by law, how would you navigate this situation?
A couple comes to me in tears and confesses that they’ve already had an abortion. They are parents to four young children and when they discovered they had became unexpectedly pregnant with a fifth child, they were overwhelmed by shock, confusion, exhaustion, and a myriad of many emotions and chose to tragically abort the child.
Never mind my pastoral response or even the pastoral ethics involved in this situation. If abortions are illegal and punishable by law…
- How would you enforce the law?
- Who goes to jail?
- The mother? Both parents?
- What happens to the four children?
Your overarching view may be clear but the layers are very complex which again lead me to this question: Can we maintain choice but do all that we can to preserve and ensure the life of an unborn?
Now that Barack Obama has been elected as the next President of the United States, I want to hold him accountable to his words that he will “listen”:
As president, my goal is to bring people together, to listen to them, and I don’t think that’s any Republican out there who I’ve worked with who would say that I don’t listen to them, I don’t respect their ideas, I don’t understand their perspective. And my goal is to get us out of this polarizing debate where we’re always trying to score cheap political points and actually get things done.
Since abortion continues to be one of several divisive issues in this country, I’d love to see the Obama administration show a quarterly “report” on numerous issues of our country that include local and global poverty, jobs, education, and abortion…amongst other issues.